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German fighter and Learjet collide - two feared dead

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A civilian Learjet plane carrying two people has crashed in western Germany after a mid-air collision with a German air force Eurofighter jet. (www.bbc.com) More...

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TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 8
I'm just amazed that the Eurofighter made it home and the pilot didn't punch out, the plane is said to have sustained major damage to both the wing and fuselage. I can't help but think that the fly-by-wire system played a big part, something that the Lear unfortunately couldn't fall back on.

That's somewhat reminiscent of the Israeli F-15 Eagle that made it home with one wing missing. Amazing what computers can compensate for.
smoki
smoki 3
That's some radical conclusion you've made crediting "computers" and FBW for saving the fighter jet. Fighter jets are by design made to sustain and survive battle damage irrespective of the type of flight control system in use. And an F-15 made it home with one wing missing? Are you sure that the wing was missing? That would be a new twist on the sage "Coming in on a wing and a prayer." FBW is merely electronic flight control signaling to a hydraulic flight control actuator via wires with the pilot's flight control commands filtered through a complex computer program that compensates for any inherent designed dynamic instability. a common feature of FBW machines. Redundancy in wire paths is the only advantage.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
Bad news... Hate to see this kind of accident happen... Prayers out to those hurt and or killed in this accident...
TorstenHoff
Torsten Hoff 2
The civilian LearJet was owned by a air target simulation service, it was apparently acting as a intercept target during the exercise.
redbarron70
redbarron70 1
We're. C
KDSM
Tim Swift 1
Thanks for sharing. I was thinking the same thing Torsten about the Eurofighter. Would love to see some pictures of it.
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
Scratch one for the Amerikaners! Ever wonder why it's always a Learjet doing all this target, aerial photo, air to air photo stuff. If you ever get a chance to get behind in one (that means go fly one) do it and then you'll know why. Start with a Lear 24! They are a Hoot! Regards to the crew, who were probably not the culprits.
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 2
Climbing at 10000 fpm for starters...
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
The 23's and the early S.N. 24's had a 10,000 FPM VSI and you could peg em at light weights and on cold days into the teens. After I wasn't one anymore, I used to tell the FNG's, You don't fly a Lear, You point it!
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
I used to fly an early s/n 35 that had that 10000 vsi. Came out of FRG to get above the bravo to ABE. Took off straight up to 10500 in a minute. This was a light 35 with no reversers...
mikeoxlong
mike oxlong 1
i did a type ride in a lear 23 s/n 6.......love that plane.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
Panel and pedestal had a little different look than today. And only one bleed air switch! I loved em too. Not too sure I would for long today!

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