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V-ref = 137
lowest recorded speed = 103
Don't matter what you set it at, if the AT are off and the throttles are just a fancy handrest or worse hands completely off. The plane with engines idling will go whatever speed it wants or whatever speed it can muster as it's falling out of the sky in a descent. But pointing the nose up just won't work if you want to stay on speed at idle. Gravity only works but one way for large aircraft.