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You Must Register Your Drone With the FAA Starting December 21

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If you’re the proud owner of a drone—or are one of the thousands of shoppers who’ll purchase one this holiday season—the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) wants to know about it. And the agency has finally set a deadline. (gizmodo.com) More...

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smracz
Sherron Racz 12
I plan to get ADS-B out on my drone so I can track it once I get an N # :)
sparkie624
sparkie624 -6
Ugh.. You need to read more... For one, they will not be getting a "N" Number. Everyone who registers will get a number, that number will have to go on the inside of all of the owners planes and copters. The number will go on the inside of the aircraft as well so it will not be visible, and it certainly will not have ADS-B... Good Laugh though... Ugh... and I would laugh if the FAA was not so stupid and misunderstanding sticking there nose where it does not belong... They do not have enough staff now, how are they going to enforce this when they can't enforce what they already have.
smracz
Sherron Racz 5
There actually are some people who have been able to register their DJI Phantom with an N #.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -5
For RC registrations, they will start on Monday... So no one has registered yet and the RC numbers will not be N Numbers
smracz
Sherron Racz 4
You can see the DJI's registered with N #'s here - http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/AcftRef_Results.aspx?Mfrtxt=DJI&Modeltxt=&PageNo=1
sparkie624
sparkie624 -2
That is registration of One Plane... That is not what the FAA is requiring.... It is the person that has to be registered.... and the registration number of the owner has to be placarded inside the plane. Keep in mind, this is not like an Aircraft Registration, but rather more associated to being a Pilots License except there is not training or test required, and in this case if they did then that would eliminate 99% of the problems.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 1
Nope, it's the registration of drones being used commercially. They have N numbers and are operated by licensed pilots.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -1
Check out http://amablog.modelaircraft.org/amagov/2015/12/14/ama-and-the-faa-registration-process/

This is a one time registration fee for the owner of the RC Plane AKA DRONE... Has nothing to do with be commercial or anything else...

Andy why is my post negative... I said nothing wrong, and is backed up with a little research... GEEZ.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 3
Your posts are getting downvoted because you're writing without reading, plus you're wrong.

The new registration process you're talking about is entirely and completely unrelated to the comment thread you're replying to. The drones with N numbers are registered for commercial operations and pre-date the new registration program.
N3055C
By hiring more people and costing the taxpayer more.
p5harri
Simply a matter of overreacting and overreaching. If the FAA believes that they will actually get more than a 10% compliance in registering drones they are delusional. The threat has been more of an exaggeration thanks to the media. Here's a saner response from a professional pilot:
https://jethead.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/airliners-vs-drones-calm-down/
bbabis
Bill Babis 6
Sanity and common sense exited this country long ago. In reality, the FAA could care less if drones are registered are not. They can make much more money on fines for unregistered drones. Its about control and money. This is a toe in the door that sheeple will gladly accept with the buzz word of Safety.
lynx318
lynx318 2
1 FAA guy to another "We've caught this drone doing something illegal, now what do we do? Let's track down the owner through it's rego no. It doesn't have one. Oh.....oh well." and proceeds to throw it in the bin with this whole notion of compulsory rego.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
YOu are correct.. Right now it is just pilot registration... Look at history and look at Gun Registrations... That is exactly what happened in Germany, required people to register their guns so that they knew where they were, then when they were ready they went and took them... The Liberal Governments want to take our rights and obama has been doing his best to do it, and thankfully there are enough that see what he is doing to block most of it.
delmonaco03
I think this is a good thing. The next thing is a licensing program for "pilots". This will definitely weed them out as half of the people I've seen posting in discussion forums can barely be the person in charge of their tv, let alone a drone.
N9ZN
N9ZN 3
This is not a bad idea. I fly Remote Controlled model aircraft, some powered and some are gliders. If your not proficient the type of aircraft I fly will soon be a pile of rubble as they have no self regulated flight capability. On an off note KITES FLY AND MANY WEIGH MORE THAN .55 of a pound. Fo kites have to be registered with the government as a result iof this ruling?
pr0ject
El Kabong 3
Kites are not unmanned.
Ruger9X19
Ruger9X19 3
Neither are drones
pr0ject
El Kabong 2
Is there a string attaching the drone to the controller? I guess if you tethered the drone every time you flew it, it could technically be classified as manned. Wonder if that's the loophole for this whole shenanigans.
Ruger9X19
Ruger9X19 2
Transmitter range would make more sense than a weight limit for regulating. If the transmitter works beyond 1000-1500 ft. You need to register.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -2
If your transmitter only goes to 1500 feet, you are going to loose your plane in most cases... That is a very short range.
MrTommy
MrTommy 1
There's all sorts of range increasing stuff you can buy for quads (or any RC craft, I would assume). You would be amazed (and SHOCKED) at some of the distances guys have gotten out with their quads. I personally don't want fly any farther than I can see. Just me, but . . .
lynx318
lynx318 1
1) Drones & kites are unmanned ( I have yet to sit in one), I would define that as a human in direct control of said craft.
2) drones are remotely controlled by a radio signal, kites by a string signal, both are remotely controlled aircraft.
Why can't the lawyers use this (kite) oversight as ammo against the register process to show it is flawed?
NF2G
David Stark 2
A true "drone" controls itself. The quadcopters that are targeted by this rule are not really drones. They are radio controlled aircraft. However, the media have been calling them drones all along, so that is what they are now.
lynx318
lynx318 1
True in that regard but it still needs an external programmer then uses an external prompt to guide it to it's destination, be it GPS or visual or homing signal, I would still take that as remotely controlled in an around-a-bout way.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
You are right.. It is not a BAD IDEA... It is a TERRIBLE IDEA!
N9ZN
N9ZN 1
I have my answer now. A RCA (Remote Control Aircraft operator DOES NOT HAVE TO REGISTER WITH THE FAA.) per legislation passed in Congress during the 2012 session. As an RC plane hobbyist I can construct or purchase an aircraft with all the properties of a drone and fly it unregistered should I desire to so so. One thing to bear in mind is that I also have a well documented history going all the way back to the 1960's of flying Remote Control Aircraft that include club memberships and local, regional and national events. Today I fly under a BLACK flag that identifies my aircraft as under control via Amateur Radio authorized frequencies (one more thing to establish myself as a hobbyist. RCA operators are allowed to fly up to a 55 pound aircraft unlicensed in the US and it territories.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
This is total liberal BS... What will happen is all the legitimate fliers will register, other idiots will not and they are the ones who are causing all the problems...

Of course I am not surprised at the liberal stupidity here, makes as much since as Gun Control... It has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with CONTROL. I would like for someone to show me once instance of a gun killing someone where a human had nothing to do with it.
btweston
btweston 4
Blaaaaah!!! The LIBERAAAALS!

You are a silly person.
alexfromin
alexei fromin -3
american military drone that kills people in foreign territory without crossing clearance....
Bernie20910
Anything to get another $5.00 into the FAA budget.

There will, of course, be zilch enforcement of this after the first highly publicized (and staged for the media) "action" against some vaguely menacing person of a proper fright inducing ethnic group with very questionable and tenuous ties to a "radical organization". But all those $5.00 taxes... err "fees" will continue to flow.
bbabis
Bill Babis 6
Once again the government strikes using the media's help. This has zero to do with security and safety and everything to do with government job growth and revenue grabbing. Next to come, the registration and licensing of your pet's laser toy with the Federal Laser Safety and Security Agency.
asegm08
I am a manager at Radioshack. We are selling these drones in and out, being a pilot myself I too am concerned highly by the ease that people can get these. We probably will not sell anything that can be customized to an extent of harming someone. However, I have seen some RC drones like the one featured in the article with the flame thrower that makes me truly wonder if people think someone out there isn't thinking of ideas to harm or cause damage with these machines. Intentionally or unintentionally. I feel that the FAA while making some effort into tracking these drones 0.55 LBS just is not a realistic gap. The biggest drone we have is 1 Lbs, it has a camera and its pretty agile, how ever this device cannot be controlled past 150FT, hardly an issue for an aircraft in flight. Having said that what kind of expectation does the FAA have on turnaround if they want those IR controlled drones that grandpa bought for 11 YR old Timmy registered, do they really expect them too?. I can not see these shoppers registering going through the hassle, let alone the 5 dollar fee.
pr0ject
El Kabong 0
13 year olds and above have to register.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
Very true.. but how many will... And why the down vote.. It is very true.
sparkie624
sparkie624 -3
One big problem is that EVERY store is selling them and that is the problem... People with no sense at all are getting them thinking of how easy they are to fly, and have no clue what they are getting into... Radio Shack, Verizon, Walmart and all of those similar stores should not sell them. They should be at Hobby Shops that specialize into RC so that the purchaser has a clue of what they are getting into... Many people who are not a member of the AMA or visit a hobby shop will ever know about registering and many never will.
uf1g2g
bruce meligan 2
What is the proposed penalty for non compliance?
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Good question, better question since they are so undermanned now, how are they going to get the inspectors out to check in the first place.
Kiwi53
Allan Main 1
$25,000 fine for non compliance I believe.
ssobol
Stefan Sobol 2
Fines start at $27,500 and could involve jail time. Flying without registration is a Federal offense!
MrTommy
MrTommy 2
I don't think the fine for murder is that much!
pr0ject
El Kabong 2
Given the speed with which this law went into effect and the lack of public commentary, I have a feeling it'll get challenged in the courts PDQ. I don't understand why the UAS manufacturers aren't being regulated better (firmware restrict altitude, proximity to airports, etc) rather than forcing it on the general public.
MrTommy
MrTommy 1
Actually, at least with DJI, there ARE restricting software parameters, dealing with proximity to airports etc. Slowly but surly it's coming around. Neither the quad mfg's NOR the FCC saw this coming. It grew SO fast no one had a clue what to do about it. But the government, after all, had do do SOMETHING, even if it was wrong or useless. I think it will all iron itself out without ridiculous non-thought out laws or regulation, put forth by people who really don't understand the technology or the use of these units.
N9ZN
N9ZN 2
I have flown RC model aircraft for over 40 years. Because I also hold an FCC Amature Radio Extra Class License I can use radio frequencies that will allow me to fly devices miles out from the controler. Up to now all of my flights have been within visual range.

I have not looked to see what the impact of this requirement is on RC model owners. I feel it will have an impact on us, looks like I need to check it out. PS we have no serial numbers on our home built models and most of the store purchased kits as well.
breezyjr
breezyjr 2
What everyone here has failed to realize, the registration is for ALL R/C aircraft over the .55lb weight. Planes, Heli's, and Drones... If you use a transmitter to fly it, you have to register. Here is an excerpt from the email I received...

Quote:
All aircraft that are flown using a ground control system, such as a transmitter, are required to participate. This includes fixed-wing aircraft, not just multirotors or drones.

Any pilot flying models weighing between .55 pounds (or 250 grams) and 55 lbs is required to register.

You will not be required to register every aircraft individually. You only need to register yourself and can affix one registration number to all your aircraft.

You must mark all aircraft with your registration number. The number can be inside the aircraft, such as a battery hatch - but should not require tools to access.

The FAA plans to launch the online registration website on Monday, December 21.

There is a $5 fee to register, which is waived if you register within the first 30 days.

You only need to register once every 3 years.

That is from an AMA email...
ssobol
Stefan Sobol 1
This covers all "aircraft" the operate in the NAS from the ground up. A transmitter is not a qualifier. Control-line and free flight models also require registration.
NF2G
David Stark 1
If AMA's interpretation is correct, then actual DRONES are exempt. By definition, a drone is not "flown using a ground control system" but is autonomous.

So if I get a quadcopter and fit it with a computerized control system, perhaps based on an Arduino, and program it to fly itself, then I should not have to register it. Does anyone else see the illogic here?
lynx318
lynx318 1
You do realize that the V1 buzz bomb was an ACTUAL drone. Somehow I doubt they would be exempt. Scary part is some life-size reproductions have been built as demonstrations of the pulse-jet engine although I don't believe anyone has tried to launch one anywhere.
RAYGIB
RAY GIBOULEAU 2
One may NOT have to register...
You're receiving this email because of your affiliation with the Academy of Model Aeronautics.
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Dear AMA Members,

Yesterday, the AMA Executive Council unanimously approved an action plan to relieve and further protect our members from unnecessary and burdensome regulations. This plan addresses the recently announced interim rule requiring federal registration of all model aircraft and unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) weighing between 0.55 and 55 pounds.

AMA has long used a similar registration system with our members, which we pointed out during the task force deliberations and in private conversations with the FAA. As you are aware, AMA's safety program instructs all members to place his or her AMA number or name and address on or within their model aircraft, effectively accomplishing the safety and accountability objectives of the interim rule. AMA has also argued that the new registration rule runs counter to Congress' intent in Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012, otherwise known as the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft."

The Council is considering all legal and political remedies to address this issue. We believe that resolution to the unnecessary federal registration rule for our members rests with AMA's petition before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This petition, filed in August 2014, asks the court to review the FAA's interpretation of the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft." The central issue is whether the FAA has the authority to expand the definition of aircraft to include model aircraft; thus, allowing the agency to establish new standards and operating criteria to which model aircraft operators have never been subject to in the past.

In promulgating its interim rule for registration earlier this week, the FAA repeatedly stated that model aircraft are aircraft, despite the fact that litigation is pending on this very question. The Council believes the FAA's reliance on its interpretation of Section 336 for legal authority to compel our members to register warrants the Court's immediate attention to AMA's petition.

While we continue to believe that registration makes sense at some threshold and for flyers operating outside of a community-based organization or flying for commercial purposes, we also strongly believe our members are not the problem and should not have to bear the burden of additional regulations. Safety has been the cornerstone of our organization for 80 years and AMA's members strive to be a part of the solution.

As we proceed with this process, we suggest AMA members hold off on registering their model aircraft with the FAA until advised by the AMA or until February 19, the FAA's legal deadline for registering existing model aircraft.

Holding off on registration will allow AMA time to fully consider all possible options. On a parallel track, it also allows AMA to complete ongoing conversations with the FAA about how best to streamline the registration process for our members.

In the near future, we will also be asking our members to make their voices heard by submitting comments to the FAA's interim rule on registration. We will follow-up soon with more detailed information on how to do this.

Thank you for your continued support of AMA. We will provide you with more updates as they become available.

Kind regards,



The AMA Executive Council

Bob Brown, AMA President
Gary Fitch, AMA Executive Vice President
Andy Argenio, AMA Vice President, District I
Eric Williams, AMA Vice President, District II
Mark Radcliff, AMA Vice President, District III
Jay Marsh, AMA Vice President, District IV
Kris Dixon, AMA Vice President, District V
Randy Cameron, AMA Vice President, District VI
Tim Jesky, AMA Vice President, District VII
Mark Johnston, AMA Vice President, District VIII
Jim Tiller, AMA Vice President, District IX
Lawrence Tougas, AMA Vice President, District X
Chuck Bower, AMA Vice President, District XI
N9ZN
N9ZN 1
Respectively the AMA is an outstanding organization, one which I have refused to belong to for many years. The only reason why I do not belong to AMA is I see the AMA as an unneeded extra expense which I am not interested in. Since the 1960's I build store kits, occasionally buy a pre-built plane, and many times design my own RC Aircraft and build them., I occasionally sell a model I have built. I have always flown on authorized land and have held membership in local RCA clubs. My planes only bear my name and contact information, by law my hand held radio transceiver bears my Amateur Radio Call Sign, contact information and displays a BLACK FLAG. The law of 2012 bars the F.A.A. from rule making respective of RC Aircraft as I understand the law, which I will re-read just to be certain I did not miss something.
breezyjr
breezyjr 1
Hadn't read that email yet... thanks...
y2kgtp
James Day 1
The members of the Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA) have been required to fly our model aircraft in accordance with AC 91-57 since 1981 and we have an excellent safety record. Our model airplanes are not "drones" and we are not the ones causing problems. We know better than to fly in the vicinity of full scale aircraft. We are modelers with a passion for aviation and want our models to emulate full scale aircraft. Many of us are full scale pilots and many more would be if they could afford it. The FAA should not have included us in the drone registration program. When we learn of a drone incident with a full scale aircraft, we are as upset as anyone else. We know that a major accident could bring an end to the lifelong hobby we love so much.
pr0ject
El Kabong 1
If there's such confusion and grass roots resistance to such a ridiculous and conflicting ruling (the rule generally violates part 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012), then why doesn't someone get these voices organized to stand against it?
asellitto
A Sellitto 1
Do they make any that can lift about 8oz? I do al lot of surf fishing and think it would be neat if I could drop my baited hook out past the breakers farther than I could ever cast.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
Yes.. Many can lift a pound or 2... I saw one quad copter that was carrying a professional video camera shooting a commercial, there was another one in a demo that actually fired a 9MM.
lynx318
lynx318 1
I wonder how much a pound or 2 of C4 or thermite weighs¿ Oh yeah, a pound or 2. Surprised some brain-dead ISIS boob hasn't tried this yet into a mall or something.
Bernie20910
Weeell, now that DHS has a firm bead on you and you've made "The Big List of Possible Terrorists", I'm just gonna slide on over here to the seats on the other side of the room, AS FAR FROM THIS CRACKPOT AND HIS WILD THEORIES AS POSSIBLE, (that last was for our DHS monitors), but I will say, from experience, that neither of those things would have the effect you envision.
lynx318
lynx318 2
I'm on the BLOPT now am I¿ These guys here are talking about lifting things from fishhooks to guns to flamethrowers somewhere else up the comment page. These "aircraft" definitely need some heavy restrictions, but this stupid law isn't one of them.
Bernie20910
You want a laugh? Guess who got one for Christmas? Yeah, a buddy gave me one as a surprise gift (I think just as encouragement to get well and get out of the house and DO stuff again - been sick since September). No way in hell am I NOT registering that thing. I will be waiting, $5.00 bill in hand, as soon as registrations open, because if I don't, and it becomes a "Question" later on for any reason, I'm sure this very thread will get carefully reexamined by whatever alphabet agency is involved. I want 'em to see, "Nope, he fully intended to register and be in compliance" when they start looking.

Not to mention that my wife is a Fed.

Woman'd probably turn me in herself...
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Don't wait. Kool-aid stand is already open. Printed mine out & used the sheet for paper airplane - a little under req. weight but there may be a few Feds out there who can't tell weights...
Bernie20910
Yeah just went to do this and I see one problem already... They want us to agree to follow their "Acknowledgement of Safety Guidance". My issue with that is the part that says, "I will not fly near emergency response efforts such as fires".

I'm an amateur radio operator who specializes in emergency communications, particularly for disasters like tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, etc. One use I had envisioned for this toy was in helping to put up wire antennas. Figured I could use it to place a messenger line exactly where I wanted it, then haul up the antenna with that. This would pretty much rule that out.
Bernie20910
The biggest issue you'd face would be line drag. Any breeze at all and that line is going to start tugging pretty good.
Kiwi53
Allan Main 1
There are a few smaller models with load hooks on them so you just fly out to where the big ones are and flip a switch. Bait placed right where you need it. With a downward facing camera you could even target your drop if the fish were schooling for example.
linbb
linbb 1
Most of them will be exempt being too small. That being said it wont affect people that much. Oh well for the actions of a few all will pay the price don't know why when someone sees another doing something stupid they do not try to do something about it.
bovineone
Jeff Lawson 7
You think most are actually less than half a pound? I would expect that only the indoor "micro" drones would be able to fit under the weight limit.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 3
DJI Phantom 3 is 2.8lbs and the other models are also >2lbs.
Bernie20910
ARES Ethos FPV a buddy gave me for Christmas is 11 ounces.
Melrosefiretech
Kenneth Doty 1
As a Drone Pilot ( reg# FA3AA3****), and Business owner of company that utilizes the UAV/UAS technology to service CalFire, ESAR Groups,Etc...I no problem in this. And as I have read Daniel Baker's comments on the 'N' number issue, I find it ironic that I am receiving a N number that will assigned to one of my DJI Drones. It was rather easy....search for proposed number, request, and then pay the $10 bucks. I had actually used a number back in the early 70's on one of my toy RC planes. And still today, that N number is available. So I am receiving 1 Registered N number for a single drone. If I pay for it, its mine. If you dont pay for it , you should not complain. Peace all and happy safe droning.
MrTommy
MrTommy 1
To see the difference in discussions pertaining to this registration thing, you ought to check out the Phantom Pilots site. I think there are more real airplane pilots here on FlightAware, while on Phantom Pilots there are more, well, Phantom pilots. Interesting difference of opinion.

http://www.phantompilots.com/threads/faa-registration-rules-announced-now.61147/

The discussion 'over there' seems to revolve around whether you register and be a "good guy", or not register and be a bad, scofflaw, dimwit who flies in front of landing 747's.
N9ZN
N9ZN 1
More on the 2012 Congressional legislation... The law passed in Congress requires the F.A.A. to not engage in rule making for the purpose of controlling Remote Control Aircraft operators and their aircraft. I might add that if anyone believes this is the ticket to avoid F.A.A. registration of a drone they are well advised to contact an attorney for clarification. I am not an attorney and am not offering legal advice, instead I am reporting on what I have found regarding the hobby I have enjoyed for so many years.
Bernie20910
Please cite the law that you're referring to. I'd like to read it in full for myself.
JimHeslop
Jim Heslop -1
How American. A few inconsiderent people with drones have caused some close calls with the flying public so now the FAA is going to have them registered, with I think is a good idea.....but....

DON'T YOU DARE ASK US TO REGISTER OUR GUNS! Which have already killed tens of thousands over the years!

Some how, it looks like their priorities are backwards.
Bernie20910
Meh... it's only a Right guaranteed to us in one of the founding documents of the republic. It's not like it's important or anything, eh?
BoscoBob
BoscoBob -1
I believe that the cavalier attitude of many hobbyists is what brought this to the fore so quickly. I watched a video of a guy flying in **IMC** at **3,000** feet and losing control.

https://youtu.be/GfxdeRx2fLA

I would hate to be on an instrument approach and have one of these things come through my canopy. I say, "About @#$%ing time!"
jedswift
Jared Smith 0
This regulation seems to be a knee-jerk reaction to the fear that the sky will be darkened by this class of flying machine, although there is yet to be a documented collision involving them.
Legally classifying them as "aircraft" has many interesting consequences: re-registration and airworthiness certificates every three years, assigned N-numbers to be displayed in 18" tall figures (banner towing?), deregistration on being deemed non-flight worthy, and that the elephant in the room: pilot certificates (drone endorsement?).

If other people's experience is similar to mine, the FAA will be swamped under the continuous traffic of registrations, de-registrations, modification paperwork accident reports etc. etc. Are form 337s going to be required for major repairs a modifications? Log books for both the pilots and aircraft? Annual inspections?

Considering the value of many the these pieces of flying art, the NTSB could get involved too.

The FAA has stepped into a quagmire of its own making. Wow, only in the Land of the Free.
dbaker
Daniel Baker 1
I don't think you've read the regulation -- it doesn't require N numbers, airworthiness, any of that.
magnetoz
magnetoz 0
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

The FAA Will Charge You $5 For Mandatory Drone Registration

The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has announced a streamlined and user-friendly web-based drone registration process for owners of small unmanned aircraft (UAS) weighing more than 0.55 pounds and less than 55 pounds including payloads such as on-board cameras.

http://aviationbuzzword.com/the-faa-will-charge-you-5-for-mandatory-drone-registration/

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joelwiley
joel wiley 1
What about the Wiccans? And the Atheists?
The cargo cult will have the P-38 can opener.
lynx318
lynx318 0
Adolf quip was aimed at copter boy above, sorry if it seemed aimed at you Joel, not the intent.
lynx318
lynx318 0
What and the Atheists a question mark¿ Whatever you reckon Adolf.
joelwiley
joel wiley 0
Sorry, I think "?" goes to the agnostics.
lynx318
lynx318 0
Maybe an = symbol then, you know, "All things considered we are all equal."

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RRKen
All the down votes prove the absurdity of your comment.

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pclifton
Philip Clifton 11
Regardless of whether or not your comment is farfetched, it couldn't possibly be any less relevant to a discussion about UAS registration.
asegm08
WTH? Where does Trump come into any of this? Anything to bring him up among his supporters. We could be talking about omelettes, Trump.

Incredible
Bernie20910
You've been huffing the parts cleaner fluid, haven't you?

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