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Historic plane crashes at Texas airport; 13 passengers onboard survive

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A historic C-47 twin-engine prop plane crashed at the Burnet Municipal Airport in Texas on Saturday; all 13 passengers onboard survived, officials said. The Burnet County Sheriff's Office said the C-47 "Bluebonnet Belle" was trying to takeoff when it crashed. (www.foxnews.com) More...

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Barry1976
Couldn't help but notice the C-47 did not have any flaps extended. Not sure if the c-47 is capable of a 0 degree flap setting on takeoff, or not. But it was very apparent that it stalled on rotation. Glad all passengers survived!
shenghaohan
Shenghao Han 3
I will say no, those were already heavy and slow... those are 767 of the time and I bet a fully loaded 767 won’t take off with 0 flap on a normal runway.
granitelocal
granitelocal 2
Bad comparison. Actually, the 767-200 does takeoff 0 flaps, but the slats are extended. I don’t know a aeronautical definition for a “normal runway”. And the 767 is a heavy, but it is not slow, thank you very much.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
According to: http://krepelka.com/fsweb/learningcenter/aircraft/flightnotesdouglasdc3.htm it states: "Unless the runway is short, a no-flaps takeoff is standard for the DC–3. On the DC–3, available flap settings are 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, and Full. The flaps cannot be stopped at an intermediate point between these positions. See the kneeboard for the flap operating speeds."
chris13
Chris Bryant 4
Saw the video, shed a tear for the seemingly avoidable demise of a beautiful airplane.
drdisque
Ben Deneweth 3
Even though the video looks like it was pilot error, trying to take off before the tail had lifted, reportedly there was an engine issue which precipitated everything. BMQ only has a 5,000 ft. runway and with the engine issue occurring when it did, it may have ended up with a crash any way it was handled.
bbabis
Bill Babis 3
No go from the get-go. It bounced into the air once but never even got the tail flying. Very glad all survived. A sad end to "Bluebonnet Belle."
gearup328
Peter Steitz 2
Flaps or no flaps, that is not a normal takeoff for a tail dragger. Something else must have been involved. Every pilot knows that you have to get the tail flying first. It's a shame they didn't abort instead of attempting to lift off.
Dav5049915
Dav5049915 2
Looks like they didn't even get the tail wheel off the ground before trying to rotate?

That's an expensive mistake.
gzelna
Greg Zelna 2
That plane just doesnt look like its going fast enough to take off, tail wheel is still on the ground. I imagine ground effect may be what gets him airborne, but hes not actually flying yet... IDK really strange slow-motion take off and crash. Fortunate for all the pax to get out before it burns.
martin202
Dave Nichols 2
check the elevator external lock.
watkinssusan
there is a ww2 vintage aircraft based in dallas that takes passengers on rides around the area and over white rock lake..it is pretty noisy when it flies over,but interesting to see..i wonder if its the same aircraft/owner as i am not familiar with that..
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
One is a C47 based at ADS at the Cavanaugh Flight Museum. Different airplane altogether.
watkinssusan
thank you..just curious..
CecilyPacanin
Cecily Pacanin 1
They are so lucky...get to fly again.
Viperguy46
Jesse Carroll 1
Sad Ending for a Beautiful Bird! I flew on one coming home from basic training out of Fort Polk, LA.
Wished they could have aborted, however glad all survived!
Gentilo
To me it seemed too slow to rotate, the tail was very close to the ground. But the main thing is that all people on board got out with minor injuries.
It's deeply sad to see the end of such a beauty !!
cdavidpcarr
David Carr 1
I wish the media would stop calling these planes vintage or historic. Back in the day, I used to fly (as a passenger) in the DC3 when it was a regularly scheduled aircraft on a scheduled route.
Then again, what the heck, at 87 years old I have been called worse things than vintage.
gearup328
Peter Steitz 1
Dave, you're not old. You are vintage like a good wine. At 75, I'm right behind you. Maybe I'll get smoother with age.

As I said before, you have to get the tail (elevator) flying first, then the wings. This crash was a total screw up. There must have been something else to cause the pilot to rotate like a tri gear airliner.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I wonder what really happened
bbabis
Bill Babis 2
There are 2 pilots, 11 onboard witnesses, no telling how many others watching, and video. We should be able to find out.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
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