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ATR Formally Launches ATR 42-600S (Short Take-Off and Landing)

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On Wednesday 9 October, at a press conference held at the ERA General Assembly, ATR’s CEO Stefano Bortoli has officially announced that the company will soon be welcoming a new member in its aircraft family. The ATR Board of Directors has approved the launch of the ATR 42-600S (for STOL – Short Take-Off and Landing). (www.atraircraft.com) More...

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canuck44
canuck44 16
The Buffalo or DH5 has been flying since 1965 and has greater STOL performance than advertised here. It was capable of carrying 44 passenger. Until one experiences the STOL capability of this aircraft one cannot believe the data. I became a believer in a snow storm in Northern New Brunswick where we traveled to pick up a baby in an isollete. The weather sucked so badly the ambulance barely made it the few yards to the aircraft on the ramp of this tiny airport with only one plow.
The crew chief secured the baby and over the roar of both engines running pointed to seats for the nurse and I to strap in. We moved forward for a short distance, turned as he wound full power and suddenly we we rolling but not for long as his lifted the nose, cleared the snowplow and we were airborne for the trip to Halifax where the weather was much better.
The weather at their home base Summerside on PEI was essentially as they had just left so a warm night of naval hospitality for our Air Force colleagues was in order in the YAW wardroom. Baby did well and fortunately I had a spare pair of underwear in my office in the base hospital.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 5
Great story, Canuck. I would not be surprised if Viking's ears didn't "perk up" when ATR made this noise. Their "new" DHC-6 Twin Otter is selling well, they have plans for the Dash-8, and I'm thinking a "new" DHC-5 Buffalo may come to fruition. They already had plans for it back in 2006-2007
mhope100
Michael Hope 4
The Buffalo is also for unimproved strips, which I think the ATR will never be able to do, nor do they claim that they can do.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
Umm..I've seen Air North's ATR-42 land/takeoff, many times, on a gravel runway up in Dawson Yukon. That runway just got paved in May. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUJIXPVXZo0
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 2
Just to add, YOC, YMA and a smathering of other northern airports dont have improved strips.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Nice to see others who live in a world of gravel and even grass strips.
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
I have flown the ATR many times to and from unimproved runways. The ATR has many faults that you can criticize it for but let’s stick to facts. My biggest concern is de-icing which the manufacturers of the ATR still have not adtessed. Many norther airports lack de-icing equipment and unlike the Beaver, the Otter and even the old but reliable Dash 8 the ATR cannot be flown safely in conditions that can lead to icing.
sparkie624
sparkie624 2
One big problem with Turbo Prop A/C and deicing is the amount of Bleed Air available. They can pressurize and run the packs, but when it comes to a hot wing there is just not enough left over... Where the boots can peal off Ice once it has begun to build, it cannot keep it off and you cannot have it on continually... It must cycle. Another issue of the boots is that over time they get Pin Holes which allows water in and it freezes causing even more problems. Boots have to be replaced frequently due to Pin Holes. I worked with a bunch of those on the Dash 8.... Lightning and Static in the air plays real havoc with them.
Skyraider55
Hans Siegl 2
Crap - never had troubles with de-icing systems on Dash7s, flew 10.000 hrs in really rough winters. It just takes experience to use it properly
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Those boots in operation inherently attract Static and that is where it comes from. If you had very little trouble that means your maintenance crew was taking care of the plane the way it was designed just the way we did with the Dash 8's. We had very little trouble as well, but the boots were issues, even though we kept them to where most of the pilots were unaware. Good preventative Maintenance can save the crews and maintenance a lot of headaches!
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Thanks for that post. It makes a lot of the ATR problems more understandable. Including why they were purchased for the north by several carriers, worked well for many years but are starting to have failures with their self de-icing.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
You best try explaining that fact to Air North..I'm pretty sure YOC and YMA, do not have proper deicing equipment, yet that airline runs in and out all year long with an ATR-42
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 1
Westwind, a Northern Saskatchewan Airline uses ATRs to a lot of airfields without de-icing equipment but after a serious accident a couple of years back they have set up de-icing equipment in many f those communities and has used differant planes in others. The Beach 19 is great for places with fewer passengers.unfortunatly Westwind invested heavily in the ATRs and cannot afford to just switch their fleet over.
rapidwolve
rapidwolve 1
West Wind was slapped hard by TC due to irregularities, and lost its operations certificate for a while. It wasn't so much as not having de-icing equipment, as it was the pilots, in too big a hurry, and not using onboard equipment correctly.
Air North has been using 2 of their ATR's for about 3 yrs now. A 3rd just joined the fleet late last year. If it gets too bad and not a lot of pax, they still have a few old workhorse's kicking around in their HS 748's.
Skyraider55
Hans Siegl 1
Right you are! Buffalo - that´s STOL! Flew the Dash7 several thousand hours from high Alpine 17% slope runways to 450m gravel strips in the Agean islands down to Antarctica operating off airfield ice runways. All done fully loaded.
--and they are talking 800m as STOL ;-)

Skyraider55
Hans Siegl 1
ATR is quality/rugedness wise never a match for the Buffalo, fullstop
plk304
Poloko Nyambe 1
Thanks very much for the infor, and welcome the ATR 600 STOL aircraft. Lets hope it will offer improved efficiency for regional airlines operating the 42 and 72, like ours here. It has bad, and the airline had to rely on leased and chartered planes.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
Very nice... I think this plane should do well...
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte -3
(Duplicate Squawk Submitted)

Wow: The ATR 42 Can Now Land On Runways Just 800m Long

ATR has announced upgrades to the ATR 42 which will enable it to land on runways just 800 meters long. The new STOL variant of the ATR 42-600, which will make its way to airlines in the second half of 2022, will feature a number of physical modifications.
ATR’s Board of Directors approved the development of a new short take-off and landing variant of the ATR 42-600 today.

The new model, which will be named the ATR 42-600S, was presented at this year’s Paris Air Show, and has already received interest from airlines.

http://simpleflying.com/atr-stol-42-600s-launch/
KobeHunte
Kobe Hunte 3
Gosh. I hate this automatic thing that removes your squawk and does this.. so annoying
yr2012
matt jensen -1
Big whoop 800m. Our CV-7A could do that in half the length - on grass, dirt, gravel and tarmac
TimDyck
Tim Dyck 2
ATR announces it’s new plane can take off and land in a 800 meter runway. The Otter laughs and says we fly in a world we’re 800 meter runways don’t exist.

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