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Biplane crashes while performing at Travis Air Force Base air show

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TRAVIS AFB, Calif. — A biplane that was performing at an air show at Travis Air Force Base Sunday afternoon crashed on the tarmac while executing a maneuver, according to eye witnesses. KTVU reporter John Sasaki was attending the air show and reported the accident shortly after 2 p.m. when the biplane crashed to the tarmac at the air base. KTVU photographer Chris Paxton later learned the blue biplane was flying close to the ground executing a maneuver known as "cutting the ribbon"… (www.ktvu.com) More...

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flyingcookmosnter
flyingcookmosnter 6
Video of the crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI4w2PKL4zk

RIP Eddie, you are a legend! Condolences to the family.

Don't sweat it aknorris - ejects happen to all of us for no reason. I think others that have had squawks ejected do it to get back at everyone else. Maybe they shouldn't have the vote count go below 0. It seems to cause a lot of butt-hurt.
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aknorris
aknorris 2
Thanks for the link and the comment.
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aknorris
aknorris 10
Why the negative votes people? Is this not an important aviation-related story? Of course, it has been updated now to include the fact that pilot Eddie Andreini was killed during the maneuver. Witness statements say he was attempting an inverted ribbon cut in his Super Stearman.
My sympathies to Mr. Andreini's family, friends, and crews. It is always sad to see a gifted pilot suffer from an accident like this.
And those who voted to Eject the squawk can kiss my rear....
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KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 5
I don't know what is going on lately in this forum. I have had squawks covering breaking news (plane crashes) down-voted as well. No reason why anyone should down-vote this squawk.
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bizjets101
biz jets 3
Either 3 things, 1 - just get rid of it altogether - the post is gone the next day anyway, or like FB - if you 'like' something on FB, anyone can then click on the 'likes' and see who liked it - so just add that to the up/down thumbs, or have so if you want to put a negative thumb - a page where you have to post why you are voting it down.

Orrrr have FA staff monitor who are the serial trolls and eject them!!
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aknorris
aknorris 3
Thanks for that info. I was really surprised by the ejects, because I thought the squawk was relevant. I certainly meant no ill will or disrespect to the pilot by squawking it, either. In other words, my intentions were all good, as far as I could tell. Oh well.
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preacher1
preacher1 2
It seems to have become commonplace. There are some trolls out there that are very childish and immature with nothing better to do. I wish there was a way that FA could make it a little harder to down vote. Just FYI, I rarely pay attention to the votes, deciding by a title to look at a story or not, but too many down votes will just throw a good story into oblivion. There is a special place in hell for folks like that, those that have no respect for others. Just keep the posts coming.
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linbb
linbb 2
Along with some comments about things on here its kind of gone down hill.
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BaronG58
BaronG58 1
I may have a answer. I noticed this a few times in the past. I would click a thumbs-up and it would subtract.Thought it might be my computer so I would click no more. Next time I logged on worked as prescribed. Early this morning it did it again, so I stopped. Just now before I clicked the big thumb-up, upper left-hand corner it was 12 when I clicked this squawk it went to 10. Looks like a problem on FA's end? If so I am sure this is happening to others.
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KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 2
Here is a video taken about 30 seconds after the plane crashed. Of interest is the incredibly slow response time from the fire crews. The first fire rigs arrive about 5 minutes after the crash!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1_gtHCcHYU
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linbb
linbb 1
Not a good response don't know what end of which airport runway they were talking about must have been another airport. Very sad to have happen. It is one thing an airshow pilot knows can happen. Lost a friend to one several years back.
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bizjets101
biz jets 1
I'm betting the fire guys feel bad today - and hopefully are feeling the heat (pun intended).
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preacher1
preacher1 2
Well, they are saying a 5 minute response. USAF trying to cover saying they had to be off runway but you would have thought they'd at least have been on the ramp.
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bizjets101
biz jets 4
How can they have fire trucks five minutes away, that is crazy - this is going to be extra sad if the cause of death was the fire!!!
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NickFlightX
Nick Hesler 1
From the video, i wouldnt be surprised if he had some sort of medical related incident, he didnt make any effort to recover.
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KevinBrown
Kevin Brown 0
The pilot is reported as being 77 years old. At what age should pilots retire from aerobatic flying in front of thousands of spectators? It seems to me geriatric pilots are involved in far too many of these airshow crashes (e.g. Reno Air Race disaster of 2011)
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Musketeer1
Musketeer1 2
The FAA actually doesn't have very rigid medical requirements at all. Less than a generic 'check-up', even for a 1st class. I think 60 would be a good number for these guys/gals doing aerobatic stuff. They force the 121 guys out at 65 that have 2 crewmembers and never go beyond a G and a half.
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preacher1
preacher1 0
I personally think your comment sucks. I wish they'd take the cap off the ATP. It is not age that hampers ability. Having been thru that mess at age 60 before it was changed and now waiting on the hammer to drop for 65, a person should be allowed to work as long as they want. I know people at half that age that should not be in a cockpit, yet they have the cert, and there will be a lot of good pilots put out to pasture before they are ready. The government is shoving out the goal posts for Social Security. They ought to make it equal for everybody.
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Musketeer1
Musketeer1 1
I respect you preacher but age very much hampers ability in physical and mental capacities, it's a fact of life.
You are displaying old man syndrome just by saying that 'half my age' comment as if pilots on average today are worse than 30 years ago. Give me a break. There have always been and always will be an untalented 10% that make it through the screen just like in every other profession.
If you want to propose exemptions beyond 65 for passing additional cognitive and physical testing I would support it, but don't give me that crap about our skills not holding up to yours; it just isn't true.
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preacher1
preacher1 1
Well, we are both speaking in generalities. As far as the half my age comment, I said "I know", meaning some, and we all know people like that, that don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain. that's the 10% you reference. I personally would support the extra skills testing as it is generally accepted that some things disappear with age but not for ALL individuals. Hell, I been on waivers for minor things for at least the last 10 years, but I personally would put myself up against anyone out there and just resent somebody pulling an arbitrary age down out of the air. I do know one thing for sure though, my can do can't keep up with my want to at times.LOL
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Musketeer1
Musketeer1 1
I'm with you on all of that.

The next question is, do you seriously thing a 77 year old guy needs to be flying low level aerobatics at an airshow? Maybe it was mechanical but to me it looked like he threw the trim for inverted and passed out.
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preacher1
preacher1 2
Obviously something went wrong and unless there is an investigation of some type, we'll probably never know. And there may not be that since no spectators were killed. I'll not say yay or nay on the 77 years old, only to say that while I am still active and plan to remain current, I am really starting to like that back porch and sweet tea as well as the creekbank.LOL
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bizjets101
biz jets 2
That is only because after a lifetime of hard work, they have the money to be able to afford the toys we can only dream of. The FAA has very rigid medical requirements, as long as Professional Aviation Doctor okays them, I'm kool with that.
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linbb
linbb 1
For your comment has no merit as airshow crashes have clamed those from young to old there is no cutoff age for ones accident and since you do not know what caused it the comment is not needed about age. It seems that you may need to retire from commenting after suggesting older people need to be taken out of service at some specific age. They do airshows because they enjoy it and like the people who come to also do the same.
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linbb
linbb 1
Oh yes and my friend who was doing an air show who died in a crash was about 50, decorated ex fighter pilot, age had nothing to do with his the controls locked.
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nasdisco
Chris B 3
Agree its ability that matters.
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